Example of a pathetic cliche want-a-bee 'Christian'

[Elad OCS]

Extracted Logs from the OCS server couple days ago.
Arguing in OCS is not allowed, and being utterly stupid is granting yourself a ban.
This is not the 1st time I encountered mush between the ears from Tex...

Here is a kid that says he's a Christian, but clearly he does not believe in the Word of God...
Brainwashed by public education and most likely by parents without Godly morals as reflected.
Its no wonder the future of America is is dire stats with minds like these growing up who pervert the Word of God...
I know others here would want to have a chat with him, but education is useless till he reads and believes himself what
is said in the bible. Can't communicate to a cliche kid...

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Tex-GA-: do you listen to art bell or george noory or ian punnet
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:39:30 PM] Elad OCS: no ian - can't stand him
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:39:35 PM] Tex-GA-: really?
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:39:42 PM] Elad OCS: he boring
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:39:44 PM] Tex-GA-: hes better than art!!
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:39:52 PM] †OCS: Remember Jesus Christ, our Saviour who died in our place
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:39:52 PM] Elad OCS: nw
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:40:08 PM] Elad OCS: even wife no like him
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:40:12 PM] Tex-GA-: on your 9 o clock elad
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:40:19 PM] Tex-GA-:
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:40:22 PM] Elad OCS: eating popcorn still
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:40:49 PM] Elad OCS: almost done
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:40:53 PM] Tex-GA-: whose better...
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:41:00 PM] Tex-GA-: art or george or george knapp?
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:41:24 PM] Elad OCS: Micheal Savage is
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:41:27 PM] Tex-GA-: NO!
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:41:30 PM] Tex-GA-: hes a tool
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:41:35 PM] Best Wishes: whooooooosh
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:41:41 PM] Tex-GA-: ...
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:42:00 PM] Tex-GA-: lol elad
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:42:07 PM] Elad OCS: i take it you like commie obamie -the Obamanation
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:42:16 PM] Tex-GA-:
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:42:25 PM] Tex-GA-: i take it you like john mcsame?
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:42:32 PM] Elad OCS: he truly a wicked man
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:42:36 PM] Elad OCS: nope
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:42:41 PM] Tex-GA-: indeed he is
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:42:53 PM] Elad OCS: obamie that is
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:42:57 PM] Tex-GA-: nope
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:43:02 PM] Tex-GA-: big john
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:43:11 PM] Tex-GA-: hes too old
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:43:18 PM] Tex-GA-: hes a senile old crackpot!
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:43:26 PM] Tex-GA-: ok, he was a POW
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:43:35 PM] Elad OCS: he favories gay right and abortion without parental
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:43:46 PM] Tex-GA-: elad...
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:43:53 PM] Tex-GA-: dont get me started on gay rights...
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:43:54 PM] †OCS: Language warning 2 of 3 to Tex-GA-
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:44:00 PM] Elad OCS: + a socolist
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:44:25 PM] Tex-GA-: gga
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:44:25 PM] Best Wishes: gga
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:44:27 PM] Mjr Headache: gga
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:44:32 PM] Elad OCS: gays= homo's are an abommanation unto the Lord
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:44:34 PM] Elad OCS: gga
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:44:43 PM] Tex-GA-: hold on
[streetbrawl.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:44:45 PM] Tex-GA-:


[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:45:26 PM] Tex-GA-: ok please say what you just said..
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:45:33 PM] Tex-GA-: it blocked out 3/4 of it
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:45:39 PM] Elad OCS: obama supports perverts
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:45:50 PM] Tex-GA-: how so>
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:45:50 PM] Elad OCS: + a baby killer
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:00 PM] Elad OCS: he suhpports em
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:11 PM] Tex-GA-: how so?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:16 PM] Elad OCS: he sais so
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:20 PM] Elad OCS: said so
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:31 PM] Tex-GA-: what is your def of a perv and baby killer
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:48 PM] Elad OCS: are u that stupid?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:49 PM] †OCS: Welcome to:  ! OCS       OutKast Combat Soldiers  TS Server
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:50 PM] †OCS: Foul language will get you auto punted or banned if severe
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:51 PM] †OCS: To play here, No Cheating Swearing  Complaining Recruiting!
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:53 PM] †OCS: Onward Christ Soldiers, marching as to war. With the cross
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:54 PM] †OCS: of Jesus going on before.   Christ the royal master, leads
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:55 PM] †OCS: against the foe.   Forward into battle  see His banner go!
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:46:56 PM] †OCS:  OCS port is: 17494
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:47:03 PM] Tex-GA-: just tell me elad
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:47:36 PM] KillerH26: mccain is next president conversation over
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:47:41 PM] Elad OCS: my wife is from russia, she left that commie country
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:47:51 PM] Elad OCS: now obama going towards it
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:48:10 PM] Tex-GA-: how does he suppory baby killers and pervs?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:48:17 PM] Tex-GA-: you said something... back it up.
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:48:32 PM] Elad OCS: like he said - he supports abortion without prental consent
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:48:45 PM] Elad OCS: and gay marriages
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:48:50 PM] Tex-GA-: what if the mothers life is at stake?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:48:51 PM] Elad OCS: he said so himself
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:49:01 PM] Tex-GA-: what if there is not enough time to get a consent??
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:49:06 PM] Tex-GA-: AND THEY LOSE THEM BOTH?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:49:12 PM] Elad OCS: a 13yrs old can get abortion without parent
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:49:13 PM] Tex-GA-: what about rape?      adding a comment here: 'O, so that ok to kill a baby because of rape? Am getting very angry at Tex wicked thinking

[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:49:14 PM] †OCS: Punting Tex-GA- for language.
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:49:52 PM] †OCS: Stats, forums/site at:         o-c-s.us
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:50:13 PM] Elad OCS: ?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:50:29 PM] Elad OCS: only saying what he said
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:50:43 PM] Tex-GA-: and why are ____ marrigaes bad?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:50:47 PM] Elad OCS: don't say  rape
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:50:56 PM] Elad OCS: dah -
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:51:12 PM] Tex-GA-: and why are ___ marraiges bad?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:51:18 PM] Elad OCS: why are gay bad - can't believe u are GA material
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:51:26 PM] Elad OCS: will talk to merkat
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:51:32 PM] Tex-GA-: DOES JESUS HATE GAYS?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:51:33 PM] †OCS: Punting Tex-GA- for language.
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:51:38 PM] Elad OCS: lololololol.
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:06 PM] Elad OCS: bet its tex
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:13 PM] Elad OCS: o guess not
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:18 PM] Boba Fett Manda: hi all
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:21 PM] Elad OCS: hello
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:21 PM] Best Wishes: hi
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:31 PM] Boba Fett Manda: how is every1
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:37 PM] Tex-GA-: why did you punt me elad
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:42 PM] Elad OCS: its auto
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:42 PM] Best Wishes: good
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:45 PM] Best Wishes: typo
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:53:46 PM] Elad OCS: don't say  gay
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:54:07 PM] Best Wishes: typo  say hello u kill me
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:54:13 PM] Tex-GA-: elad does Jesus hate theg _ys??
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:54:19 PM] Boba Fett Manda: lol srry
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:54:24 PM] Elad OCS: read Romans 1
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:54:27 PM] Boba Fett Manda: u startled me
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:54:27 PM] Best Wishes: np lol
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:54:45 PM] Tex-GA-: did Jesus die for only the straight people?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:54:46 PM] Elad OCS: God says they are an abomination - can't get no worst
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:55:00 PM] Tex-GA-: i have a lot of g_y friends.
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:55:08 PM] Best Wishes: lol
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:55:09 PM] Elad OCS: God also said he gave them up to a debais mind
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:55:29 PM] Tex-GA-: and it is a FALLACY... almost BLASPHEMY to believe
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:55:36 PM] Boba Fett Manda: is this a christian server?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:55:37 PM] Tex-GA-: that God hates his own children!
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:55:37 PM] Elad OCS: why u think there was a flood?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:55:51 PM] Elad OCS: yes
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:55:58 PM] Boba Fett Manda: oh ok
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:01 PM] Tex-GA-: do you think being g_y is a choice??
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:09 PM] Boba Fett Manda: well i got news for u
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:12 PM] Elad OCS: yes
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:19 PM] Boba Fett Manda: i am gay and i am proud.
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:20 PM] †OCS: Language warning to Boba Fett Manda
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:25 PM] Tex-GA-: yay boba!
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:36 PM] Tex-GA-: are you a Christian?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:43 PM] Elad OCS: he is banned
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:44 PM] Tex-GA-: elad...
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:49 PM] Tex-GA-: ARE YOU JOKING?
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:51 PM] Tex-GA-: ELAD
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:52 PM] Best Wishes: lol
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:56:59 PM] Elad OCS: no and u close to being banned too
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:57:05 PM] Tex-GA-: YOU'RE MY BROTHER, BUT
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:57:12 PM] Elad OCS: your not mine
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:57:21 PM] Tex-GA-: OMG LOOK AT THE LOG IN YOUR OWN EYE BEFORE
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:57:31 PM] Tex-GA-: YOU TRY TO SEE THE SPECK OF SAWDUST!!!!
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:57:41 PM] Elad OCS: enough of him
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:57:46 PM] Best Wishes: lol
[TermsTrap.bms] [GLOBAL CHAT] [8/3/2008 2:57:52 PM] Elad OCS: banned  now we can play

[neo42]

He is blind-folded by society's desire to leave the feelings of everyone intact; to please all, to pamper, hence why he becomes upset at the holy truth that homosexuals are abominations. No one ever said the truth would not hurt, but turning your back on the Word as Tex has is not the correct response. Sadly, there are too many such as Tex, and the problem is worsening. 

[Mouko OCS]

While I agree...let's not forget, as MANY do...that we are to share the gospel and the love of Jesus Christ with ALL...not just straight people.  I have a friend who is sort of in the same boat...homosexual and apparently believes he's just oki doki with God.  Well, he's wrong, very wrong.  Do I associate with him anymore?  I have not for some time...why?  Because I can not condone what he does.  I have had another friend in the same position...although I'm not sure she professes to be a Christian. 

We have to remember that Jesus Christ died for those who's faith is placed in Him.  Can a homosexual be saved?  ABSOLUTELY!!  Just look around, look into it, and you'll see how God has done so.  Too often I've seen people think that because a person is homosexual, that we should not even bother with them...not even bother sharing Jesus with them.  God help the person who believes that.  That shows a heart of PRIDE and forgetfullness of what God has saved them from.

There are the lost, who we are to share the love of Jesus and the gospel with and then there are those who claim to be believers and are living against God.  Paul speaks about these.

1 Corinthians 5:9-11
9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people;
10 I [did] not at all [mean] with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters; for then you would have to go out of the world.
11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he should be an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler--not even to eat with such a one.

The thing we have to think about here is that there are MANY "believers" who are VERY immature in their faith, VERY uneducated in their faith...and then there are those who really have no faith at all.  You have to decide for yourself what category Tex falls into.  While I believe I have a good idea...I don't know Tex and am willing to talk with him about all this and try to show him further what the Word says about it all.

I have known people immature in their faith who, when confronted with the truth of the gospel about something wrong they believed, immediately became angry, but soon realized the truth and God changed their hearts...do we believe the same can happen to Tex....I do...I've seen it.  I only caution us to be careful to not cross the line between standing firm in the truth and being too prideful and self-righteous to do anything but be content to sit in judgement and nothing else.  I've seen THAT too....too often.  There comes a time when we are to put a person out of fellowship, but, have we done anything to change the situation?

Don't get me wrong, I stand in support of Elad's decision to ban Tex from the game.  I just don't want to see a self-righteous parade going on like I've seen outside of the forums with simliar situations.  This whole situation is something we all need to pray about.  I only hope for the opportunity to share with him more.  If he doesn't come here, I may go to him.

[Tigerlily]

Hi guys,

I just wanted to say I know what happened with Tex, and we are trying to straighten him out.  We have been questioning him for quite sometime now.  For one we think it was kind of strange for him to join cheerleading, and be so eager to do so.  I believe someone has directed him down the wrong path, and we are going to try to fix it.

I believe like you guys do, and do not support gays in anyway.  I believe in order for a gay person to become saved they have to repent of the sin, and change it.  They can't stay gay once saved there no such thing as a gay christian.  I also can't believe what he said about abortion.  I am 100% against abortion, and I am a women.  The lord looks at every child as precious, and that is how the world should look at them.

I also agree with the ban.  First he was wrong for argueing in the server he should have came in here and made a post about it.  He was also wrong for calling people names, and not listening to his elders. 
We all need to pray that he will be directed down the right path, and for the lord to give Terminator (my husband) the right words to help him.

Thanks,

Meerkat=GA=

[PureKnight OCS]

I am dearly disappoint with Tex GA. And I am also dearly disappoint with Elad for certain word usage such as "baby killer", "commie obamie -the Obamanation", "perverts", and such and also ban action on boba fett. I agree and know that God is totally against behavior of homosexual but you need to understand that Jesus Christ DIED for them in name of LOVE. Elad, I dont see your love for those kind people nor for Obamsa (anyway you spell it). I admire your fire and firm faith in Word of God. I am not saying you should dim your lamp. NO NO. Rather, display your love. Offer them peace and warn. Offer them to drop the subject and discuss on OCS BibleCampground where strong leader like yourself can discuss openly.

I want you to understand where I am standing... I am against the behavior of homosexual (and homosexuality itself), the ignorance of abortion, pattern of drunkard, and such like that those are against Word of God.

More than that, I need not to say more as Mouko and others say it pretty much. Yes, I agree ban is right action but with a request that it is not pernament.

God bless you! Elad, please understand that I am not against you but to edify you to be better leader. After all, you are the reason why I am sticking with OCS. I LOVE YOU MAN!

[Nighthawk]

 I have to agree with Elad and all really but i have no understanding why ahyone would want to be gay to me it is a choice a very bad one for any sexual immoral actions or desires are sins and he calls is self gratifaction it was  wrong back then and still is today  we stupidly accept today  and some times you have to be hard core like ELAD was with them not my call hope he just done it with the Holy Spirits leading and not out of fleashly desire to be right    iam very proud to be a christain and dont want people tarnishing like that saying gay is ok its not nor will it ever be God has a man for every women and women for every man those nasty feelings you have for same sex race  i promise youll find in a oppiste sex if you let God do the leading  i too will never accept it  for thats why its running rampit today rather than accept it drive it OUT   for if we as christains accept it whats next going to Hell is ok too wow its time to take a stand be bold in the God you server he will be Faithful to you its time we the CHRISTAINS set the standers not the world  God bless you all

[Mouko OCS]

Thanks Meerkat, I'm glad you guys are working with him.  Since ya'll are talking with him, as people he knows, I'm going to leave it with ya'll, because he and I don' know each other as good.  If, however, I can be of any assistance at all, please let me know.  I agree also with you about the fact that homosexuals MUST repent of that and turn not only away from that sin but also turn to God.  It is also true, Elad, that God does give some over to their own desires, which by their nature is sinful.

After I read this I had to go walk down to our PD to handle some things and I prayed for him...and I'll keep doing so along with you guys in working with him.  It may be, however, time to, as Paul once put it, "remove the wicked man from among yourselves." (1 Corinthians 5:13)  If he continually refuses to hear the truth...that is the next step...along with praying for the Spirit to reveal the truth to him.  Don't let your working with him be to your detriment. 

It is so important for us to stand against what is wrong...and especially when we see professing believers doing what is wrong or believing in the wrong things.  Believe me, this type of thing infuriates me too.  Those out there who are attacking the honor of our Lord...I pray for their salvation...and at the same time, that He would SILENCE them.  I then begin to understand, I think, a little better how David felt in the Psalms, especially in the end of 139.  So, I understand where you are coming from Elad, because I feel the same hatred for what is so contrary to the truth of God.  However, we have been assigned the ministry of reconciliation of the lost to God (2 Corinthians 5:17-21).  We have to ask ourselves at times are we following our pride or because we truly hate what is evil.  We know this by looking back at our lives.  Are we consistently quick to condemn without attempting to reconcile?  Many, I fear, are.  A person can hate evil yet still carry on that ministry of reconcilliation.

[Elad OCS]

Thanks ALL...
I had to put Tex into Range Ban as he came in under "TheCheerGuy" today.
Once I hear from Meerkat=GA= that Tex is straighten out & no longer an argumentative player, then he will be released, but not till I hear 1st.

The purpose of this post is to exposes such wicked thinking that is out there.
As for me calling one a name "baby killer", I won't back down on that! Anyone who supports abortion is guilty by assoication.
I call it like it is!
If anyone says they are gay, they will be immediately banned. PERVERTS are not allowed in OCS!
This other guy- boba was killerH26 who saw what was going on, left and came back in as boba
to make the point he was gay. Notice Tex cheered that he said that

[LXS-StormChaser]

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY REASONING?
CALLING ME A WANNA BE CHRISTIAN?
I AM DONE WITH ALL OF YOU HYPOCRITES!
I QUIT =GA=.

[Mouko OCS]

Part of my point is that I want to know your point Tex.  If we are wrong in our assessment of what you've said and what you have also implied you believe, how are we wrong?  I want to know where you're coming from.  However, if you take off, how is anyone supposed to know that if your reasonings are sound.  Much can be misjudged from a typed conversation, but, from what I've seen your thoughts are not Biblical.  As you can see, the rest who've commented feel the same about what you've stated...therefore it is PAST TIME to listen.  I pray you will.

If you are willing, PM me and we can talk.  IF in fact you are a true Christian, then you MUST be willing to receive correction when you are wrong.  If you are not willng to hear that you are wrong, you can not be convinced of the truth of God.  If you believe you are right, then it should not be difficult to say why you think that way and be able to back in up with the Word.

The FACT is, God's revealed Word speaks against homosexulity in more ways and places than one, both outright and implied.  His visible plan for creation shows clearly what is intended for man and woman...not man and man or woman and woman.  The Word has spoken on this subject in every age.

     - In the patriarchs (Genesis 19:1-28)
     - In the Law of Moses (Leviticus 18:22; 20:13)
     - In the Prophets (Ezekiel 16:46-50)
     - In the New Testament (Romans 1:18-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Jude 7-8)
          (http://www.gty.org/Resources/Articles/2478)

I hope to hear from you.

[Mouko OCS]

Elad, if we are not going to allow people to come in, then how are we to either direct them to the forums or witness to them?  If they are causing problems, yes, boot 'em.  Booting someone for saying they're gay...how then is anyone to tell them it's wrong and why and what they can do about it if they're booted immediately?

[The Deacon OCS]

I wish I had seen this earlier today.

First, this probably should have been posted in a non-public forum because we are talking about an individual in conjunction with the overall subject.

Second, we need to pray for him. We need to pray that God will touch his heart, will change his heart, will mature him and will bring him back into the Shepard's arms. We also need to pray for Terminator and Meerkat as they minister to Tex (Cheerguy) that God will give them the right words.

Third, ditto what Mouko has said.

Fourth, I support Elad's position.

Fifth, if you are a Christian, then God's Word, not man's, is your guide. Scripture is clear on this subject - homosexuality is an abomination. Abortion is murder and the Sixth Commandment say's: "Thou shall not murder". (murder is the correct Hebrew word, not kill).

Sixth, the world does not care about sin, it revels in it. But as Christian's we should know better.
 
Seventh, Jesus loved the sinner but hated the sin. One of his last acts on the cross was to bring a thief into Christendom. But he always required repentance of sin of his followers. My brother in law is gay and unsaved. One of the nicest people you would ever meet. He knows my position on homosexuality. I still love him and I will continue to witness to him  and pray for him. I for one would love to see him in Heaven some day.

[Elad OCS]

Well, guess I might be wrong about KillerH26 as being boba.  Ip's don't match. But one can fake ip's or login different service :/
KillerH26 left then 30 sec later boba came in and seem to know what was going on.
KillerH26 was in today and masked the F word then left shortly after.
He tried rejoining a few times but was getting punted auto... Interesting...

If you mention in the military that your gay, you will get discharged. Don't ask, don't tell is their policy...

True, I should of told him to goto ocs site before I banned boba, but I was already irate with Tex.
 I also do not want this discussion in the server. I do think its more important to show that OCS is a clean
server - safe for kids. Having someone saying there gay and allowing them to stay in server does not
bode well as if we not only acknowledge it, but tolerate it.
I am not in that tolerant camp. Too long Christians have tolerate evil and now its all over the place.
But I'll try to tell em to goto our site 1st before removing a discusting player...

Would you invite them into your home alone with your kids?
[Excuse me Mr. Pink, but I have to run to the store. Be back in a few hours. My kids will keep you company while I am away]
Well same for server. Lots of times there are no moderators around to watch it, or any ocs members in even...
So, need to get em out while found...

Again, the reason this post is in public area and not internal is because so many now believe like Tex.
Your inputs / references may help others beside Tex who also does not know what the bible actually says...
Maybe they will look it up for themselves, Hopeful with opened eyes n minds.

Post is bigger than Tex.  Let the truth be shown to all...

[Nighthawk]

this hard for me because i dont even want to understand where they are comimg from for it just grossies me out i believe all people can change  but  its a horrible sin  people say sin is sin but my bible says sexual immorality is of the worse just under blasapheming i do believe so i too dont take it lightly maybe iam wrong but the union between a man and a women is a very sacried thing for to me it is a pyshical display of the spiritial love of God for us to pervert it like it has been is very gross and a big smack in the Lords face not just gays but unwedded sex too..... its all about self controll people need to get some....   

[Mouko OCS]

Yeah Elad, I know how you feel on that man...I do.  And that's all I'm asking is that we try to at least point them in the right direction first.  I agree the Church has become too tolerant...part of the reason so many things are accepted today that were not even just 10 years ago.  Trust me, I KNOW how you feel.

Night, part of the reason we try to understand, in some cases, where people are coming from is so that we can better address the problem.  Being willing to make an effort at comprehending, NOT IDENTIFYING WITH, a person's motives, etc., often helps in witnessing to them.  It also, at times, shows the person you care about them and then they are more likely, again in some cases, to listen to what you have to say.  Now, what you say may go in one ear and out the other, but, at least you have told them, and perhaps an unsaved person is nearby who will then also hear the gospel.  Even Paul reached people where they were (Acts 17:21-34).

[LXS-StormChaser]

elad why did you feel it was necessary to mock me?

some example you are showing.

we dont agree with each other.

so what?

i didnt go posting about how you are a pathetic wannabe christian.

thanks for taking the high road and being mature about this.

[Tigerlily]

Tex,

That is a bad attitude you got for someone who could be your grandfather.   He was only trying to tell you the truth, but you don't want to see the truth.  The truth is in your bible read it.  We are only trying to help you see the light, and you continue to stay in the dark.  I am sorry if I am out of place, but I can't standbye and say nothing.  You should listen to those who are older then you on things.  The lord will show you the truth if you follow him.

Elad,

I am sorry if I am out of bounds, but like I said he doesn't know what he is talking about.  He needs to talk to a pastor that will set him straight on this topic.  I can't standbye and watch him slap the lord in the face with his remarks, and sarcasm.


Thanks,

Meerkat=GA=

[LXS-StormChaser]

why couldnt he have sent me a pm or an email?

charles manson is old enough to be my grandfather.
should i listen to him.

just because someone is older doesnt mean theyre better, or smarter, or faster, or stronger.

[Nighthawk]

i believe charles is a poor choice to compare a Godly man to !!!!! you really need to seek some help   i would suggest talking to Mouko or the Deacon in private they are great men with a very open mind and heart not to say Elad isnt for he is ! but beeings you dont see eye to eye  please for you salvation talk to them or me  we are not here to condem you but to help thats all .so how about it   well you give it a try 

[LXS-StormChaser]

pray for my salvation???

i already am saved!

there is nothing you can do to 'un-save" yourself!

im not as pissed about the debate as much as the way elad has conducted himself.

like i said, he didnt have to post this in a forum, certainly not under the name it has.

he could have PMd me!

[Mouko OCS]

Ok, one thing you WILL do is watch your lanuage in this forum...PERIOD.  That point is NOT up for discussion.  To some extent I agree on the wording of the heading of this topic, however, the point of the topic I do not disagree with.

As for your salvation, I do not know the condition of your heart, HOWEVER, your words reveal much that at a minimum you either do not understand the Word of God or only want to hear what justifies what you feel.  The Word is clear.

And yes, many of us are concerned about you, whether you believe it or not.  While we will not condone the views you stated, some of us DO want to talk with you and help you see what the Word says.  IF in fact you are a Christian, seek the truth from the Word in the Holy Spirit.

[Nighthawk]

hold on there for one do not cuss in our forum # 1 homosexualty is a perverted evil spirit  which is a bad thing being saved you should know that is not how The LORD had mad us for we are his own creation made in his image have you ever read about sodom and Gomorrah or how about 1 corinthians chapters 5 - 7  iam not question your salvation just challening to see it from the his Holy word not what i think or Elad or anyone else but God himself

[LXS-StormChaser]

sorry about saying that...
but im just so disappointed(?)

if gay marraige wasn't a national GOP issue, would you be debating this?

it makes me mad (better?) because everyone here appears to think that Jesus is a republican.

[LXS-StormChaser]

"Extracted Logs from the OCS server couple days ago.
Arguing in OCS is not allowed, and being utterly stupid is granting yourself a ban.
This is not the 1st time I encountered mush between the ears from Tex...

Here is a kid that says he's a Christian, but clearly he does not believe in the Word of God...
Brainwashed by public education and most likely by parents without Godly morals as reflected.
Its no wonder the future of America is is dire stats with minds like these growing up who pervert the Word of God...
I know others here would want to have a chat with him, but education is useless till he reads and believes himself what
is said in the bible. Can't communicate to a cliche kid..."

gee elad....
you sure are brave....
cutting down a 16 year old kid behind his back!

[Tigerlily]

Tex,

You know what you just did to the lord jesus you just slapped him the face.  I am tired of you talking about the lord this way.  The only way you will listen to the truth is if the lord came down and slapped you on the face.  Well he is listening to everything you are saying about his laws.  I am quite sure he is not too please with you right now.   I am done trying to help you see the light.  I will pray for you though.  You need to learn some respect for the lord. You are actually saying that the lords laws are false, and that he made them up.  Think before you type or say something you will regret.  I hope you apologize to the lord for the way you are acting.

I am done with this topic, but I will pray for you. I am going to let the lord handle this.

Meerkat=GA=

[Mouko OCS]

if gay marraige wasn't a national GOP issue, would you be debating this?

Yes, because it is not simply a "GOP issue."  Aren't you listening?  We speak out against it because that is the truth and part of what we are as Christians.  We don't get to pick and choose what we believe.  The truth is the truth and a Christian is to LIVE his/her faith always, not just when it suites us.  We don't just live it when it's campaign season...you just so happen to hear it a little louder then because the media is out in full force attempting to refute the truth.

it makes me mad (better?) because everyone here appears to think that Jesus is a republican.

This is not a republican or democrat or WHATEVER issue (I honestly can't believe you made that analogy...it shows the same lack of maturity you are accusing others of) it's an issue of GOD'S TRUTH vs the lies of satan.  Unfortunately, the reason you hear so much debate is because neither side seems to understand or know just what they believe (or even care for that matter) more than they just know how they "feel" about it...which is NOT the best place to start.

Some of us need to take some time and cool off as well as some are not VIEWING what is being said and seeing only what we want to see.  I understand everyone's zeal on this and feel every bit as you do.  But some are letting their emotions get the best of them.  Be careful you are not speaking only to be heard by man and kicking at the wind.

[Nighthawk]

if gay marraige wasn't a national GOP issue, would you be debating this?

it makes me mad (better?) because everyone here appears to think that Jesus is a republican.

 well Friend we are not here to debate anything much less argue with you and as for Jesus he is our Lord and savior dont think he would approve of the way your throwing his name around either because i sure dont and you need to stop attacking Elad also and as for OCS this is a great group of people here trying our best to take his word to the world .we are not perfect nor will we ever be but you need to respect us we will be glad to listen to your point of view but do it respetcfuly this is a wonderful place to post and read about Gods movement its ment to be enjoyed and occasionaly a vent or two but do it tastefully so with that Jesus Loves you then now and forever

[LXS-StormChaser]

we are not perfect nor will we ever be but you need to respect us   

i wasnt the one to post this thread.

[Assassin Xaero]

Ok... to start this off, I only read the first few posts and I'm expecting to get banned for this, but oh well... if you have any problems with anything I say, you can email me (alex122790@gmail.com) if you want to discuss it. I didn't not come and waste my time here to argue or to start trouble, I'm defending what I believe to be right.

Outcast Combat Soldiers... name doesn't fit. Unless you mean that you outcast people who don't believe everything that was written in a book. Seems pretty hypocritical to me. I highly doubt any of you really know what it is like to be an outcast. You guys all need to grow up. You guys are outcasting someone just because they don't believe what you believe. That would be like me saying "Oh, you don't like metal? Well, you are not worth of being around me". I honestly can't stand people like you. I was friends with some people like that, then they found out that I don't go to church, read the bible, or believe most of that stuff, and the quit talking to me. I have nothing against anyone who is religious, just people who lack the ability to respect what other people believe.

I made almost died a few days after my birthday a few years ago, and after that I had known that someone or something was watching over me. For about a year after that I had believe I was one of those Christians. Who read the bible, who worshiped God and Jesus, and faith, or whatever, and all that stuff. Then at school one day, at some christian thing on Friday mornings, one of my teachers said "You guys are Christians, you are better than everyone else and they look up to you on how they should act". Ummm, No. Christians are NOT better than everyone else. Nobody is better than anybody else. That is the truth. You can either learn that or just live in denial for the rest of your life. Then, after that had annoyed me, I started to have thoughts, and that screwed up the whole faith thing (as a great man once said).

I also love how you guys call it the truth. And I also find it offensive since it is against what I believe. From what I've seen, heard, thought about... A lot of things that have been proven in everyday life contradict what the bible has said. Also, as another one of my idols has stated, who wrote the bible? How did anyone know that stuff actually happened when nobody was around to see it? Anyway, enough with that...

Someone wanted to be a cheerleader... and...? What is the big deal? Who said it you have to be gay to do it? Because mostly the opposite gender does it means you have to be gay to do it? So, if girls want to play football, get a job, or anything else that has a higher ratio of men to women, does that make them lesbians? I don't see any difference in it. People have called me certain things, like, for example the Antichrist, because of the music I listen to. Yeah, so I listen to anti christian music, that doesn't mean I'm the Antichrist or anything... And if you disagree with that, then learn to think. Do you have to be gay to listen to Queen?

Another thing... you have NO RIGHT to tell people that they are not really christian because they don't follow something written in a book. None of you are really christian then. If I remember, there was something on the lines of 'Thou shall not kill'. Well... you all play a game where you go around and kill each other. Very unchristian like if you ask me, but then again, I'm as close to atheist as you can get while still believe in some sort of guardian thingy watching over me.

So yeah... can't remember what else I was going to post, but meh... I'll survive. As I said, I'm expecting to get banned for this so I'm not going to bother to return to this site ever again. Like I said... if you have any problems with this, feel free to email me... Besides that, have fun going against the word and killing people on Black Hawk Down, Call of Duty 4, or whatever games you guys are playing now days...

[Elad OCS]

Tex, you made it public in the gameserver..... Yes, you got me fired up as what you said is serious and wrong.
2nd, Others think like you do and hopefully this topic will be a 'shock n awe' to waken up to evil that is out there.
3rd, The democrate platform has always been for abortion and gay rights past 30-40 years. Democratic courts
        have thrown out God is schools and in government. And hate crimes for just quoting some bible passages.
        Sadly, there are some republicans doing the same. I am conservative, not a republican anymore...
        But, far more republicans are against abortions and same sex marriages that the deep left liberals.
        You'll find most Christian leaders (politicans) are in the republican camp, not demo's.
4th, Someone needs to pick on you. How else to wake you up to your ways? You rather I be quiet and let you die in your
       sins?  No, its a duty for Christians to warn. Offering you candy or syurp on toast is not going to get your attention.
       I have your attention now, don't  I.
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Welcome Assassin.
No, your not going to get banned unless you start using foul language. We invite you to take part in Biblecamp.

We here do believe what the bible teaches. You do not (you said 'close to an atheist as you can get') and we will pray for you too.

We are also commanded to past judgement on others who claim to  be christians, to reproach those that are out of line.
But, if you do not believe a "book" then you will not understand were we are coming from.

Yes, Outcast Combat Soldiers. Outcast from the world view that many like you have against us, the bible, & God...

As for "thou shall not kill" it is wrong. No such passage...
Its, 'thou shall not murder'.

God sent His people (isreal) into many wars to kill the wicked... You will have to take that up with Him, the author.

[Mouko OCS]

Well, since you are not going to return ever again (I love it when people do that so they feel like they're getting away with something), I'll respond for the benefit of those who will.

First point made about being outcast.  Fact is, the world does not accept the things of God, nor God, nor His children, as they are an offense to the world. (1 Cor 2:14; Romans 9:33; 1 Peter 2:8.)  Why are they a offense to the world? John 3:19 tells us because the world loved darkness rather than the light...why...because their deeds were evil.  You doubt we know what being outcast is like?  Honestly, I think I'd almost agree with that...to an extent...because we as Christians do not experience, by and large, persecution in the States as do many Christians outside the USA...yet many do, and are treated as outcasts due to the fact that they live for Christ and not according to the world's twisted sense of morality.  Disagree?  Look around...

Another point made was that we have the lack of ability to respect what other's believe.  You are looking at this from a lost man's point of view.  We see the world's view of things and how it stands in contrast to God.  Out of love for God we seek to tell the world who God is and what He's done so that they may know Him as we do...and to truly know Him is an awesome thing.  The ones here that do know what I mean.  So, no, we don't respect lies and deceit that only destroy.  

Are Christians "better" than non-Christians?  Boy that's a loaded question and statement.  One that invites trouble either way you answer almost.  In God's eyes, His children are being made into the likeness of Jesus, the only perfect life, and therefore, we are holy.  Does that mean we are better?  Well, we are definately in a better state to say the least, as when we die, we enter paradise with the perfect Lord we serve.  The Bible describes the Christian as the salt of the earth (Matthew 5:13).  What does salt do?  Preserves, adds flavor, heals...so the love of the Lord manifested through His children, yes, is better for the world.

I love it when people say there are so many contradictions in the Bible when compared to the world...and never mention them.  Yet again, supposed contradictions are often seen as such by a world that not only does not comprehend the salvation of God, it CAN NOT fathom it and therefore can not come to Him nor understand Him (John 6:44; 1 Cor 2:14).  So for a non-believer to say there are many contradictions is NO surprise at all...because the entire Word at it's essence is contradictory to the world's understanding of itself.

"How did anyone know that stuff actually happened when nobody was around to see it?"  Heh, follow that same logic with your birth.  None of us, to our knowledge, was around to see you born...but we know it happened.  No man was around to see the world's beginnings, yet here we are living in it.

Now on to cheerleading...who said it was gay to be a cheerleader?  I think most would agree that just because a guy is a cheerleader does not mean he's gay.

In some sense, you are correct in that we can not see the heart of man to say whether he is or is not saved.  HOWEVER, we can see the fruits of a man's life, which include his words, actions, etc., and often make safe assumptions, as long as those assumptions lead us to share the truth with them.  The Bible shows us what and how we are affected by the Holy Spirit when we are saved.  As far as us claiming the Bible as truth, well, only the Holy Spirit can convict you of that...although if you do some research, there is physical evidence that supports or substantiates many things in the Word.

Moving on.  As for us playing a video game where we kill people...well, that can be debated many different ways...probably to no satisfaction on either side.

As for your getting banned, personally, I don't see why you would be.  In fact, you're making judgements about us much the same as you're condemning of us.  So, is it ok for you to do so based on what you believe about us from your understanding based on the world's convictions and not ok for us to actually LIVE according to what we believe based on the very Word of God...whom if the world embraced would lead to the healing of the land in more ways than one, which I believe we can all agree the world needs? (2 Chronicles 7:14)

I hope you do come back even though you say you won't.  Either way I'll pray for you...as I'm sure others will.  I'll send this to you in email as well.  I just hope that while you're in here in apparent defense of your friend, which in a way I can appreciate, I pray you'll see that you need to take inventory of yourself as well.  The God of all creation has provided the truth to you.  My hope is that your turning from it is not a permament state, or else the future for you is, tragically, hopeless.  There comes a point that after having been shown the truth, that a man turns from it so much that God lets him go to his own desires (Psalm 81:12;  Romans 1:24-32)...I pray you have not come to that point.

[JudgeDred]

Pop Quiz:  How many people here would without a  doubt trade places with someone they knew was going to go to Hell, take their place and allow them to go to Heaven. I know of only one person that was on this earth that would have been capable of doing that. Mother Teresa was that person, even with all the good that she did, the belief that she carried in her heart, she still did not see herself as a Christian or feel the slightest worthiness to be allowed into Heaven. This IS the type of person I would want to emulate if I felt I even  had the slightest possibility of being that type of a person. But there is one thing that I know to be true for all of us, NONE of us are worthy. I only hope that we all can see that no matter how hard we try, I try, you try, entry into to either Heaven or Hell is neither a certainty nor absolute. We can only trust in the Lord's wisdom and understanding that will grant any of us a final resting place.

[LionOfJudah OCS]

ok, now my 2 cents. CHRISTIANS ARE NOT PERFECT! JUST FORGIVIN   i support elad and agree with him. are we going to allow someone to come into the server and announce that they are satan worshippers. i am not and will ban them straight away. if you are gay ( or into any other perversion )and want to play keep your mouth shut about it, do NOT bring it up and play the game. why are we even argueing with tex, elad attempted to counsel tex the best way he could and tex continued to argue. most of you on this post has tried but apparently you are not going to change his mind. i say quit argueing with him ban him from the game and forumsand let the lord deal with him. if he ever changes his mind and goes with the LORDS way of thinking let him back but  to continue with this is going to get others upset. if tex wants to talk about this with someone it should be done with his pastor and the lord. as for what assassin said i will let someone else comment on that. now judge i will say only this about your post and please dont be offended by my straight talk BUT you forgot about the most important person ever. he died for all who were going to hell. JESUS CHRIST. i know i am saved and i know i am going to heaven to see our LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST. do you know how i know? because it says so in GODS word the holy bible and i believe every word in the king james bible from front to back. sorry mouko and deacon and judge dred if i offended you, i in no way meant to.  oh and by the way i think obama is a undercover terrorist.

[Heff OCS]

Well  I guess Ole' Heff needs to put in his two cents worth.  First off I do not claim to be an authority on the Bible but then again I am not ignorant either.  While I may not have handled this incident in the same manner I can see both sides.  So without further ado I shall begin.

The primary topic of this post is the subject of Homosexuality.  First off they are Homosexuals not 'Gay'.  The word "gay" means merry, exuberant, bright, lively.  In its original use it did not have a double meaning. The adaptation of the word "gay" by homosexuals has robbed it of its pure meaning, thereby corrupting a once perfectly good word.  There are many bright, exuberant, merry people in this world who are not Homosexuals.

Does God Love Homosexuals?  YES,  God Loves all his children without exception.

John 3:16
26-For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Does God hate the sin of Homosexuality?  YES, without a doubt.

Laviticus 18:22
22-Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10   
9 -Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10- Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Leviticus 20:13
13-If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:24-31
24- Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 -Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 -For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27- And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29- Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 -Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31- Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 -Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Without quoting any more verses I think it is quite plain that from the above verses, that God does not only finds the act of Homosexuality a sin but an abomination worthy of DEATH.

1. Tex/thecheerguy-While I probably would not have handled this in the same way I am somewhat dissappointed in your beleifs and the way you have handled yourself in these posts.  You claim to be a Christian yet you appear to approve of the Homosexual Lifestyle.  I am sorry but that is a contridiction of terms.  All I see from your posts is anger. 

2.Assassin Xaero-While I have never played with you I have read your post.  First off, No  I will not be emailing you.  You attack me, OCS, and run away.  Your post is filled with anger and apparently very little thought went into it.  There are NO contridictions in the Bible.  I hear a lot of people crying that there is but I have yet to see anyone post one.  The reason why is because there aren't any.  God Loves all his children, Christian and nonChristian.  The difference between a Christian and a nonChristian is a nonChristian will never make it to Heaven.  BHD is a game, nobody dies.  We really don't kill anyone.  I can't count the number of time someone has come into the server mouthing off about how 'bad' a Christian I am for killing people in a game.  It is always a nonChristian that thinks they know enough about the Bible to put me in my place when in fact they are only showing their true intelligence or lack of it.  Yes, there is some anger in this paragraph.

3. Hi Judge, good to see you posting.  The answer to your pop quiz is No One.  While Mother Teresa was a kind and caring person if she was truely not saved than sadly she is not in Heaven.  There are a multitude of people who have done a lot of good deeds and great things that are burning in Hell as we speak.  There is only one way to the Kingdom of God and that is through the Blood of Jesus Christ. 

[Elad OCS]

Please note that Tex also argues for abortion as well. Always brining up the life of the mother at stake. What is the percentage of such? 1% or less? But Tex does not address the 99% of a million babies in America each year being slaughtered.

JD, Lion, Heff, besides Jesus - who did take our place, there was also Moses who offered himself.
Recall when they were wondering in the wilderness for 40yrs and sinned, God wanted to destroy the whole nation, but Moses pleaded and ask the Lord to take him instead. The Lord's anger relented...

I do not know much of anything about Mother Teresa as am not Catholic. But I know a number of great Catholic men who loves the Lord and will be in heaven someday.
 I will say this thou, ALL have sinned which has to include not only Mother Teresa, but Mary the Mother of Jesus as well.
Certainly God found favor in her to grant such an honor and she is to be respected, but not worshiped.
We are to bow down & worship God only. This gets real touchy and I do not want to offend fellow believers, but unbelievers I will.
I certainly do not want this post to go off in this direction...

Please use Biblecamp... Its full of great resources, examples, humor and love.

I do know that I love my wife and I would die for her. Am sure a lot would do the same for thiers if we could.
But we can't take anothers place in hell. Jesus is the one who holds the keys to hades...
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This topic will soon be locked. It served its purpose to expose the lack of understanding among self-called christians, and Christians as well.

[The Deacon OCS]

i know i am saved and i know i am going to heaven to see our LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST. do you know how i know? because it says so in GODS word the holy bible and i believe every word in the king james bible from front to back. sorry mouko and deacon and judge dred if i offended you, i in no way meant to.  oh and by the way i think obama is a undercover terrorist.

Lion - read your post, I can't see why your post would offend Mouko or myself. You are right on point. Mouko and I would try to reason with Tex but he is not ready to be taught God's Word.

If Tex returns with a contrite and teachable heart then we can show him the error of his theology through God's word. The same word that he says he believes in.

I would mention that I have read a PM from Tex and the dribble is even worse than what he has posted for the public to see. He is 16 and I would challenge his life long (albeit very short) understanding of the Bible.

Great responses here

[Bath Bronco]

A lot of misdirected anger flying around in this thread. forgive me if i'm wrong but doesn't every u.s bill have 'in god we trust' printed on it. so surely if an American president to be is promoting abortion, then he is promoting a non Christian country(which is exactly the opposite of what America was created to be). Tex, OCS is only trying to help you and others gain a proper outlook on life. and rightly said lion that Christians aren't perfect, but we try daily to improve ourselves and be better people. i'd just like to say one more thing, everyone just relax a little bit. we are all supposed to be friends here and all children of god.

[Tigerlily]

Hi guys,

I have told Elad what happened to Tex on our website last night, and I am suggesting for the sake of our hearts to close this subject.
He has been argueing back and forth from our website to here.  Our admins finally had enough of it, and agreed to ban him from our website.  He is not going to listen to us about this topic.  The only way he will listen is if the lord came down, and told him face to face. I will continue to pray for him about this.   I think it is time to move on. 

Thanks,

Meerkat=GA=

[Mouko OCS]

Lion, you haven't offended me at all brother...not in the least...I'm in agreement with Deacon on this now.  I believe it's time to close this up and continue to pray for all this.

Heff, about the word "gay," good point.  As for God loving those who's identity is homosexual...I'd have to argue that point somewhat, but that's another discussion.  Those who are, by identity, a homosexual, the Bible says are hell-bound.  A Christian, by identity, is now of the nature of Jesus Christ, therefore heaven-bound.  But, again, that's another topic...one definately worth discussing.

Judge, actually, Paul himself said that of his own countrymen,

Romans 9:3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed, [separated] from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh,

And yes, there is absolutely knowledge of where we will end up after we die...the Bible speaks an ABUNDANCE of times about that very thing...to name a few verses, VERY few (some of my personal favorites): John 3:16,18; Romans 8:28-30; Romans 10:9-11.
As far as Mother Teresa goes, her good deads all amount to SQUAT in how they deal with her salvation.  If she did not put her full trust in the Lord Jesus Christ as her Savior and the ONLY way to God (John 14:6)...it saddens me to say her eternal destiny is NOT with God, but seperated from Him in hell.  If she did, then she is with God.  I don't know one way or another as I never knew much about her or what she believed.

Folks, for all this topic brings up, one thing should be abundantly clear, we NEED TO KNOW THE WORD OF GOD.  Not just THINK we know it, we need to KNOW it.  Our lives are to conform to Christ, not the world.  The Word shows us the path to follow...and that is JESUS ALONE.  If in all my long-windedness you've ever picked up on ONE thing I've tried to relay to everyone, is that it is so utterly ESSENTIAL that we know the Word of God...not pop-culture's idea, not our own understanding or "pick-and-choose" theology, not what sounds good, but what it SAYS IN THE WORD.  It may sound like I'm angry or upset...I'm not...I care about ALL of you and want us ALL to know just what God has for those who LOVE HIM...so you could say I'm being PASSIONATE about this.

If you hear nothing else of what I've said, hear this please!!  Learn the Word...because in it and through it and the Holy Spirit, we KNOW GOD...

Philippians 3:8 More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish in order that I may gain Christ,

[Tigerlily]

Hi guys,

I just received a pm from Tex/cheerguy.  With an apology.  He asked me to post it.  Please read below.

Thanks,  Meerkat=GA=

From Tex/cheerguy

sorry if i have been unreasonable.
its just that everywhere i turn, these "christians" do nothing but cut people down, and hate gay people without knowing them first, and almost discount the fact theat Jesus died for them too. it was like a "vent" post i had on the website... i am taking an indefinate break.

sorry i called you a hypocrite.. i am too.

if oyu could, please post this.


if you want to say anything please heres my email:

farmerboy4640@yahoo.com

sorry.

[TheLastSparten OCS]

Another thing... you have NO RIGHT to tell people that they are not really christian because they don't follow something written in a book.

I like that statement.



That apology statement doesn't seem so sincere after what I have read in this post.

Just my opinion.

[Mouko OCS]

Well Sparten, that "book" he's referring to is the Bible...which we follow.  Granted, as I've said before in response to that...

In some sense, you are correct in that we can not see the heart of man to say whether he is or is not saved.  HOWEVER, we can see the fruits of a man's life, which include his words, actions, etc., and often make safe assumptions, as long as those assumptions lead us to share the truth with them.  The Bible shows us what and how we are affected by the Holy Spirit when we are saved.  As far as us claiming the Bible as truth, well, only the Holy Spirit can convict you of that...although if you do some research, there is physical evidence that supports or substantiates many things in the Word.

It's not a one-time thing we look at in a person's life, it's the pattern of their life that shows a man's heart.  Does a man's pattern of life show the love of God or is it the same as the world's?  Is the nature of the man that of being made like Jesus (Romans 8:29) or that of being CONSISTENT with the world's ways?  We CAN NOT truly know the heart of a man, yes.  But, again, we can get a GOOD idea.

And as for your opinion of the apology, well, you're right, it's your opinion.  It is not to OCS, in MY opinion, that apologies are due.  It is a change of heart and mind to what God's Holy Word teaches us about God, what Jesus has done for us, and what His ways are so that we would follow Him.

[TheLastSparten OCS]

Mouko when I said I liked that Statement I knew it was about the Bible.

What I was referring to was how other Christians view the LDS Church.  Now this is definitely another topic entirely we should keep it at that.

It was just a light hearted post meant to aliveate some of the seriousnous in the topic. Sorry if it was inappropriate.

[Mouko OCS]

Now this is definitely another topic entirely we should keep it at that.

Yeah, we had that discussion already...heh heh.

[Elad OCS]

Yes, this topic is now closed.
I recommend goingto Biblecamp for further discussions.
I wanted this topic to run its course, and it has.

Its nice to see Tex has soften somewhat, but he still does not see whats wrong with homo's...
Were not to have a 'gay old time' (the Flintstones cartoon theme song) with those who continue in sin.